Comments on: The Toilet Seat – Up or Down? https://www.patrickwanis.com/the-toilet-seat-up-or-down/ Human Behavior Expert Fri, 27 Jul 2018 17:16:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.4 By: Danielle https://www.patrickwanis.com/the-toilet-seat-up-or-down/#comment-5171 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:29:10 +0000 http://patrickwanis.com/blog/?p=1357#comment-5171 You need to take the fact that there are a multitude of cultures here in the US and thus a multitude of etiquettes that entail. At 21, I have grown up in the most culturally accepting society in the history of the US which is still ever so changing. In many Asian countries not slurping your food is rude to the host. Up north when a man opens a door for a woman that poor guy gets yelled out by the woman. I have friend who has been up north and he was telling me how the women of there think it is insulting when a guy does that. I told him they don’t understand the charm of southern hospitality. I could go on about the flaws to your story. So before you go “analyzing” the behaviors of the male species take into account the fact that you are writing to millions of culturally diverse people.

Cheers,
Danielle

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By: rmj https://www.patrickwanis.com/the-toilet-seat-up-or-down/#comment-5170 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 03:48:36 +0000 http://patrickwanis.com/blog/?p=1357#comment-5170 Yeah!!!! My guy friend told me ;if he puts the toilet seat down for me, I have put it up for him. To funny…

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By: DmLucifer https://www.patrickwanis.com/the-toilet-seat-up-or-down/#comment-5169 Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:02:16 +0000 http://patrickwanis.com/blog/?p=1357#comment-5169 There is one easy solution. Guys, leave the toilet seat down. EVERYTIME. Learn to aim, pee through the thing, the bowl is large enough. If you splash the seat, just use some toilet paper to clean it or better yet have some cloth ready. Urine is sterile so there is really no danger of diseases.

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By: Patrick Wanis https://www.patrickwanis.com/the-toilet-seat-up-or-down/#comment-5168 Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:23:13 +0000 http://patrickwanis.com/blog/?p=1357#comment-5168 In reply to Sailor.

Dear Sailor,

Thanks for being so open and relating your story and for being open and honest about what you feel and what has been happening.
As a man, we both understand that too often we attach our value to our jobs and money – we want to be able to provide. So, yes, the challenges you have faced with work, career and money would have left you feeling down.

It also seems to me that you are very hard on yourself and you feel as if you are not good enough which is not true.

Here are some suggestions and observations:

1. there is resentment and frustration in the relationship – you resenting the fact that she had to pay for you and she resenting it also.
2. You must talk about the above (point no.1) so that you can both let go of the resentment otherwise that alone will kill your relationship and the love you have for each other.
3. Speak openly with her about how you feel – don’t blame anyone – just say how you feel i.e. “I feel stupid and weak that I had to ask you for money or depend on your for money.”
4. It’s natural that when we feel stressed out or down, we cannot or at least, find it hard to be humorous – so forgive yourself for that
5. Speak to her about the incident where she spoke about the toilet seat “in front of friends (with a slight smile) “; tell her how you feel – don’t blame. Instead say “when you spoke about such and such, I felt such and such.” Also, ask questions, “I was confused, I wasn’t sure whether your were being humorous or if there was another intention. What was your intention with that comment?”
If you feel that it is not something you would want her to do again in public, then say so – but do so gently yet firmly.

Finally, one key question, do you feel that she is trying to be your mother and trying to control you – telling you how to act, dress and behave and paying for you?

All the best,
Patrick

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By: Sailor https://www.patrickwanis.com/the-toilet-seat-up-or-down/#comment-5167 Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:05:46 +0000 http://patrickwanis.com/blog/?p=1357#comment-5167 I have been in my current realtionship for nearly ten months now and there have been many ups and downs and major rows, definitely surrounding the power struggle. The main conclusion from her side is that it shouldn’t be like this so early on and that maybe we’re just incompatible (is this immaturity on her part???). But I have also changed a few times when she’s suggested: 1, definitely because my work was killing me and I was being stubborn to myself for carrying it on so long (but at the same time, my goals changed and I was no longer leading a single mans life, so it wasn’t necessarily changing for her too). 2, cutting my hair/changing my appearance because she’s said she prefers it (again i did fancy a change and was too lazy when single or justified it because of hideous acne or was to look tidy for a job interview) 3, the relationship has become too serious (i’ve been highly stressed through no work or money and also through a possible mourning period of leaving that career behind, which i’d been pursuing for so long but i purposely then injected fun into it and surprised her with gifts or by trying out paying equally, even though i’ve been out of work for a while – which is difficult in NY!! – this also stemmed from an earlier argument which blew up because i “took advantage” of her good nature by making her pay for things, when she didn’t have the courage to say to me, she didn’t actually have a lot of money at the time. i’m not an evil person and would never have taken advantage had something more solid been said by her earlier on, but this definitely broke the honeymoon period for us, even though she can’t admit that she didn’t have the courage to say i was taking advantage then as she was so into me).

But ironically the toilet seat thing HAS come up!! Now I always leave it shut as I’m a bit of a clean freak/feng sui obsessive, so to me it’s just tidier!! I’ve left it up on a few ocassions where i’ve simply “forgot” or got a bit agitated by holding it up as it doesn’t stay up without force (which is a skill and i really look manly like in urinals!!) but she’s brought it up in front of friends (with a slight smile) and i’ve reacted defensively saying all of the above about forgetting, i’m a man and that i usually do put it down. Now I probably should’ve joked about it and feel I failed this test by her, but because of my underlying negativity I guess I took it too seriously, especially with all of the above teething issues with us and my general anxieties floating around at the moment. Thing is we’re still together now and I know arguments will always happen, but to blow them up like this makes me feel bad and I feel I have to be the apologetic one (especially when incompatibility pops into the equation). By the way, she’s a little older than me too but am I being immature by flooding my personal failings in at the moment and blurring my rational/humorous thinking?? Surely letting her in is intimacy?? Regardless of leaving the seat up occasionally. But as a man, I’m NEVER going to sit down to number 1!! That’s just plain ridicule!! (It actually overflows through the seat due to the angle of dangle anyway, girls).

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By: PJ https://www.patrickwanis.com/the-toilet-seat-up-or-down/#comment-5166 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:59:34 +0000 http://patrickwanis.com/blog/?p=1357#comment-5166 Of course leaving the seat up is a habit. It is a learned behavior. It can be unlearned. while there is no right or wrong of the habit, may I suggest that it is not a God given right to stand up to pee just becaue you can? A friend of mine taught her guys to sit becaue of cleanliness issues and i mentioned this to my boyfriend (who has his own home) because when you stand up, it splashes the floors and wall with urine, he agreed wholeheartedly after starting the practice at home and finding out how much cleaner his walls were.! How disgusting! If you are the one who cleans the bathroom by all means, spray away. If you are NOT be considerate and sit down. If standing up to urinate is what makes you a man you have more problems than Dr. Wanis can solve. and to answer the comment does a woman sit on a ‘dirty’ seat without looking, no of course not, but in her own home (that she likely cleans) she should not have to turn on the lights in the middle or the night to avoid a cold sitz bath. Grow up guys.

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By: Kathy https://www.patrickwanis.com/the-toilet-seat-up-or-down/#comment-5165 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:34:43 +0000 http://patrickwanis.com/blog/?p=1357#comment-5165 Well, I am rolling around laughing!! Where are the real men here in this blog? All I see is little boys whining because their fragile egos have been bruised!!I guess their egos are bigger than their brains and much bigger than their p…..s. Wow!! Talk about wimpy men. We all know bad habits are bad habits no matter guy or gal but seriously boys, grow some balls! Now maybe you men get it why there are so many lesbians and why we turn to women. You’re not men! Where are the real men who don’t whine, complain or cry like little 2 yr olds? I am guessing that these cry babies run to mommy for every little thing…i’d never depend or turn to any of the men on this blog for protection. i’d get better from a butch lesbian!!!…jus sayin…

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By: Josh https://www.patrickwanis.com/the-toilet-seat-up-or-down/#comment-5164 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:02:27 +0000 http://patrickwanis.com/blog/?p=1357#comment-5164 Also, your “5 components of being a human” or whatever are strangely similar to Donnie Darko. I had to laugh.

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By: In regard to your reply to PhDmA francopolo https://www.patrickwanis.com/the-toilet-seat-up-or-down/#comment-5163 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:30:55 +0000 http://patrickwanis.com/blog/?p=1357#comment-5163 Yes, the same argument applies to them. You know why? They have fame and notoriety. PhDmA francopolo was saying that a person without that fame and notoriety with “such a portfolio of critics” would probably not be so “busy, printed or supported.” You have completely missed the point of that statement of his.

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By: Michael https://www.patrickwanis.com/the-toilet-seat-up-or-down/#comment-5162 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:55:04 +0000 http://patrickwanis.com/blog/?p=1357#comment-5162 Dear Patrick,

As I read your article I slowly developed an image of a bitter, never satisfied, single, forty something year old woman. My imaginary woman was all of the above because every guy displayed from time to time, one of these habits, and she was never going to find her “dream man”. Anyways, I found it ammusing where my mind took me. As a Jared already mentioned I think that you are reading a little too deep into some of these habits. But, with that being said, I can not stand the fact that my room mate leaves HIS dishes in the sink until I end up taking care of them. I consider that pretty inconsiderate!

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